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PostPostano: 17.7.2013. sri. 19:02    Naslov: Povezanost prehrane, dugovječnosti i visine naroda Citiraj i odgovori

Gdje živi najviši narod na svijetu? U Europi? Hrvatskoj?
Da li postoji povezanost između prosječne visine, prehrane i zdravlja?

Ako postoji, onda bi to mogli koristiti kao dodatni alat u potrazi za optimalnom prehranom.
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PostPostano: 17.7.2013. sri. 20:11    Naslov: Citiraj i odgovori

http://www.southampton.ac.uk/mediacentre/news/2011/apr/11_37.shtml

Clear Link Found Between Height and Longevity in Historical Records
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/04/110407093244.htm

http://www.marksdailyapple.com/the-connection-between-height-and-health/#axzz2ZKPAVw3S
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PostPostano: 17.7.2013. sri. 20:33    Naslov: Citiraj i odgovori

Najviši narod na svijetu su Vatusi iz afričke države Ruande. Pripadnici ovog naroda najčešće su visoki oko dva metra: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tutsi
Dinka narod je također među najvišima: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dinka_people
Turkana i Massai isto

Najniži narodi: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pygmy_peoplesž

Zanimljivo, u Ruandi se nalaze najviši i najniži narodi

http://www.pnas.org/content/104/51/20216.full

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perhaps most distinctive feature of known pygmy populations is their very high adult and preadult mortality rates, more comparable with values observed in chimpanzees (17) than in other human traditional populations (18–20) (Fig. 2 a). Life expectancy at birth in human pygmy groups is very low [24.2, 16.5, 24.3, 16.6, 15.6, and 16 years in Batak (3), Aeta (3), Agta (21), Aka (1), Mbuti (22), and Efe (3)


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“I think that, besides the high mortality, they have very low calorie intake, so it is a combination of the two factors that lead to the different phenotypes,” she said. “The pygmies grow in the same rates as the Turkana [eastern African Pastoralists], who also suffer from poor nutrition – but because the Turkana have longer life expectancy, they have time to grow for longer and achieve larger body size. I would expect that a population with high mortality and high resources would grow fast and taller.” In other words, human height in general is partially influenced by lifespan.

Read more at: http://phys.org/news117456722.html#jCp


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PRECOCIOUS PUBERTY

One type of unusual growth pattern is caused by the early onset of adolescence. This pattern occurs more frequently in girls than boys. The term sexual precocity is used to describe this condition, which includes early development of adult sexual characteristics. Children with sexual precocity grow rapidly and are tall for their age initially, but their bones also mature rapidly, so they stop growing at an early age and may be short as adults. A recently developed synthetic hormone (LHRH) is useful in halting this type of early sexual development and allowing additional growth. Studies are underway to determine if the addition of growth hormone to this regimen increases adult height of children with sexual precocity.
http://www.hgfound.org/pub_patterns.html
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkana_people
http://www.museums.or.ke/Turkana_Boy_factsheet.pdf

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maasai_people

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Nutrition and Physical Degeneration
A Comparison of Primitive and Modern Diets and Their Effects

WESTON A. PRICE, MS., D.D.S., F.A.G.D.

http://gutenberg.net.au/ebooks02/0200251h.html

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Dr. Price's trip to Africa gave him the opportunity to compare primitive groups composed largely of meat eaters, with those of similar racial stock that were mostly vegetarian.5 The Masai of Tanganyika, Chewya of Kenya, Muhima of Uganda, Watusi of Ruanda and the Neurs tribes on the western side of the Nile in the Sudan were all cattle-keeping people. Their diets consisted largely of milk, blood and meat, supplemented in some cases with fish and with small amounts of grains, fruits and vegetables.

The Neurs especially valued the livers of animals, considered so sacred "that it may not be touched by human hands. . . It is eaten both raw and cooked." These tribes were noted for their fine physiques and great height-in some groups the women averaged over 6 feet tall, and many men reached almost seven feet. Until his Africa trip, Price had not found groups that had no cavities at all, yet Dr. Price found six cattle-herding tribes that were completely free of dental decay. Furthermore, all members of these tribes exhibited straight, uncrowded teeth.

Bantu tribes such as the Kikuyu and Wakamba were agriculturists. Their diet consisted of sweet potatoes, corn, beans, bananas, millet and kaffir corn or sorghum. They were less robust than their meat-eating neighbors, and tended to be dominated by them. Price found that largely vegetarian groups had some tooth decay-usually around 5% or 6% of all teeth, still small numbers compared to Whites living off store-bought foods.


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http://news.softpedia.com/news/The-Tallest-People-in-the-World-61130.shtml

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/gigantes/Africa.html

http://eye4ethnic.blogspot.com/2013/03/dinka-tallest-people.html

http://books.google.hr/books?id=ht926VJgWu8C&pg=PT333&lpg=PT333&dq=tallest+tribes&source=bl&ots=ls3ccLnJVd&sig=Xv8QJlrMyp4z_I2vK5iaeeUMOEc&hl=hr&sa=X&ei=jTHoUfm2HIbIOamCgfgN&ved=0CGYQ6AEwBzgK

http://mysteries-of-earth-revealed.blogspot.com/2008/03/mystery-of-tallest-people-in-world.html
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http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2008/06/masai-and-atherosclerosis.html
http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2008/06/what-to-do-if-your-study-contradicts.html
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PostPostano: 19.7.2013. pet. 19:53    Naslov: Citiraj i odgovori

The traditional Maasai diet consists of six basic foods: meat, blood, milk, fat, honey, and tree bark. Wild game (except the eland), chicken, fish, and salt are forbidden. Allowable meats include roasted and boiled beef, goat, and mutton. Both fresh and curdled milk are drunk, and animal blood is drunk at special times—after giving birth, after circumcision and excision, or while recovering from an accident. It may be tapped warm from the throat of a cow, or drunk in coagulated form. It can also be mixed with fresh or soured milk, or drunk with therapeutic bark soups (motori). It is from blood that the Maasai obtain salt, a necessary ingredient in the human diet. People of delicate health and babies eat liquid sheep's fat to gain strength.

Honey is obtained from the Torrobo tribe and is a prime ingredient in mead, a fermented beverage that only elders may drink. In recent times, fermented maize (corn) with millet yeast or a mixture of fermented sugar and baking powder have become the primary ingredients of mead.

The Maasai generally eat two meals a day, in the morning and at night. They have a dietary prohibition against mixing milk and meat. They drink milk for ten days—as much as they want—and then eat meat and bark soup for several days in between. Some exceptions to this regimen exist. Children and old people may eat cornmeal or rice porridge and drink tea with sugar. For warriors, however, the sole source of true nourishment is cattle. They consume meat in their forest hideaways (olpul), usually near a shady stream far from the observation of women. Their preferred meal is a mixture of meat, blood, and fat (munono), which is thought to give great strength.

Read more: http://www.everyculture.com/wc/Tajikistan-to-Zimbabwe/Maasai.html#ixzz2ZW039exg

There are generally two meals a day, one in the morning and one at night. In addition to all the other rules, milk and meat cannot be consumed at the same time. Maasai drink milk for ten days with no restrictions, and then eat meat for several days in between. For warriors though, the meal of choice is meat, blood, and fat. They prefer to rely solely on cattle for nourishment.
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The Changing Body
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PostPostano: 7.2.2015. sub. 10:51    Naslov: Citiraj i odgovori

Massai umiru premladi zbog uvjeta u kojima žive i samime time stopa koronarnih bolesti im je mala jer nisu uspjeli doći u godine za razvoj iste.
Uostalom žive na višoj nadmorskoj visini gdje su im arterije šire i lakše podnose zasićene masti i hodaju svaki dan na desetke i desetke kilometara pa imaju i di to trošiti a i da se njih pita nebi sigurno jeli tu hranu da imaju u izobilju svega nego su se samo prilagodili uvjetima..opet dolazim do pitanja koja je OPTIMLAN prehrana!=)
A i obdukcija na njihovim tijelima je pokazala jako veliku stopu začepljena arterija i početak razvoja istih.

Tako da to sve pada u vodu što se tiče nas i nama sličnim..većina na ne pređe više od 1 km na dan i ne živi na većim nadm visinima i ima jako puno vremena za razvoj koronarnih bolesti radi visokog unosa mesa i sličnih namirnica.=)

Thank you..thank you very much... skace od srece [/img]
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PostPostano: 7.2.2015. sub. 13:48    Naslov: Citiraj i odgovori

Neki navodno dožive i duboku starost, prije svega to ovisi o tome koliko se djeca brinu za svoje roditelje kada im popusti snaga.

Misliš da ne postoji povezanost između prosječne visine naroda i optimalne prehrane?
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PostPostano: 7.2.2015. sub. 13:57    Naslov: Citiraj i odgovori

Hmm..to je sada diskutabilno za duboku starost ali nije ni to poanta nego je poanta zivjeti zivot aktivan,vitalan,pokretan i pun energije do sam kraj zivota!
Pogledaj sam bIljojede u prirodi..kad ih pogledas neznas dali imaju 4 godine ili 14..jer do 90 posto njihovih zivota su vitalni i pokretni i onda samo odjednom naglo padaju..
Tako bi i trebalo biti kod nas ali nije!
Mi se pocinjemo raspadati vec u 30ima..je tako?
Mislim da se slazes?
I tu dolazi plant based prehrana..pa i ja nisam vegan..i ja jedem ribu i jaja i kozji sir ali ih jedem 2 - 3 puta tj taman toliko da ne razvijem nikakve nedostatke.Pokusavam unesti sto vise proteina iz biljnih namirnica a zivotinjske jedem samo kao nadopunu i radi b12 i omega 3 i ostalog..
Ja zelim biti vitalan do kraja..pun elana i energije:)

I na kraju krajeva veca je mogucnost da cu ja zivjeti duze od nekoga lchf fanatika..ne treba znaciti ali statistika i istrazivanja su na mojoj strani!
I mislim da se slazes.
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Vedran87 je napisao/la:
I mislim da se slazes.


Kao da slušam sebe! skace od srece

Samo dugovječnost i vitalan život do samog kraja bi trebali ići zajedno.
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